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Bridge actually offers most of the editing capabilities of Lightroom via the ACR plugin (which can be launched in Bridge), including the ability to sync edits across multiple files. It lacks the selective editing though, you need to use Photoshop with that.

Personally, after testdriving Lightroom I happily moved back to Bridge. Bridge doesn't require me to conform to how it wants files organized and allows me to stick with my long-standing backup strategy Which involves shuffling folders full of files around, something LR doesn't much like. Most of the extra value in lightroom comes from its keywording, search and organizing fcilities and I personally find them to range from more trouble than they're worth to actively interfering with me.

Bridge also allows much easier use of non-Adobe products such as CaptureOne.

Adam,
Each to his own. Glad you have a workflow that works for you.

However, lest your comments influence people's thinking, I do want to point out that Lightroom does offer moving/copying whole folders easily and in doing so it preserves all the key wording, development settings, etc. It also can rename multiple files at once, delete files, and rearrange folders all from within Lightroom's Library module.

Also, any external editor — including CaptureOne — can be added to Lightroom's preferences so files in Lightroom can be directly opened in the external editor. In fact, Photoshop AND another external editor can be configured so you have two choices for external editing outside of Lightroom.

And finally, yes, ACR is a powerful tool. The same basic engine that drives ACR also drives Lightroom. I think anything you can do in ACR you can do in Lightroom — but not vice versa. ACR, for example, does not have Lightroom's ability to paint areas for masked edits, nor can ACR do the spot removal or graduated masks available in Lightroom.

Like I say, to each his own and I certainly would not want to discourage anyone from using ACR if it fulfills their needs.

Brooks

I have been considering moving to Lightroom and your comments have been most helpful. I sort of agree with Adam that you stole a base by ignoring the capabilities of ACR in your original post, but your clarifying comment is also helpful.

Right now, 95% of my post-processing takes place in ACR. I rarely do anything in Photoshop except a little output sharpening prior to printing.

The extra processing capabilities of Lightroom over ACR and the ability to print from Lightroom, thereby removing Photoshop from my work flow as a print engine are the real selling points for me. I would buy Lightroom to replace ACR, not so much to replace Bridge. Of course you never know until you try--I might, like you, fall in love with Lightroom as a file management tool.

Thanks so much for taking the time write such a detailed answer!! More information is good. I've recently read the Fraser/Schewe sharpening book and it got me thinking about PhotoKit Sharpener. Then I reread some of the included material about Lightroom which seems to cover the capture and output stages of sharpening. Now all of this gives me more to think about in terms of new software tools.

Dennis, if it helps any I used to use PhotoKit sharpener in Photoshop for all of my images. I now use Lightroom exclusively. It is missing the creative sharpening aspect of the sharpening workflow Jeff and Bruce describe, but honestly for most of my images it's not really necessary.

Brooks, you mention you loaded the images onto your netbook. Which one are you using? I've tried a couple of times using Lightrom on my HP Mini 110, but it's just not up to the task.

Neil, thanks for the info. Economically speaking, saving on PhotoKit makes Lightroom more doable.

LR does have creative sharping. The Brush tool includes a sharping slider. It is not as refined as the Detail sharping or PhotoKit, but it is there and later release could provide even better control.

Brooks, I'm sure the key to your happiness with Lightroom is that it makes all its functions accessible and natural seeming. It rewards your intuition and gets the clutter out of the way.

As others have pointed out, the local adjustments, including both brushes and gradients, are available in the current version Bridge, via ACR. Likewise the ability to copy and paste develop settings across pictures.

It all tends to feel a little kludgy—not so in Lightroom.

I should say that Aperture 3 is also a strong player and finally produces high-quality conversions. Anyone who swore never to go near it again after seeing the results of exposure compensation in version 1 and who isn't comfortable with Lightroom might give Aperture another look. I don't believe it's strong enough to lure away existing Lightroom users but there are Mac users tired of the Bridge/ACR/Photoshop thing who doesn't enjoy the Lightroom interface…

Thanks for the blog and the podcasts. They show very different aspects of your thinking.

To Bob McNally: you're right about the creative sharpening existing in LR2 but it's fairly weak. Something about the algorithm used for the local sharpening brushes just doesn't cut the mustard. Try the same function in the Lightroom 3 beta to see how it should work. (While you're at it, look at how much better the colour NR is if you shoot at higher ISOs.)

http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/lightroom3/

It's a beta, there are bugs, it doesn't read yr Lightroom 2 catalogue, it expires in April, etc., etc.

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